ACLU vs. Clapper, Alexander, Hagel, Holder, and Mueller - 3

What happens when the words of a sage statesman come true before your very eyes?

And those words that come true are: "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison

Well, for one thing if we are not in denial it can tell us that our founders were consummate experts on the social infection we call tyranny, as shown by the prescient words of another one of our sage statesman: “Experience has shown that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.” – Thomas Jefferson

Regular readers know that this series deals with the case where the ACLU is suing the military for spying on all Americans, including spying on the ACLU.

The Complaint is found in the first post (ACLU vs. Clapper, Alexander, Hagel, Holder, and Mueller), and the latest look at the docket is  found in the second post (ACLU vs. Clapper, Alexander, Hagel, Holder, and Mueller - 2).

Some of us may be wondering: "What can they do with the information they get from spying on all Americans?" and "What does that have to do with me, with government, or with America?"

In today's post, then, let's listen to an NSA whistleblower, Russell D. Tice (there have been several over the years: Snowden, Drake, Benning, Tice, Kroft).

Mr. Tice was a veteran spy with a 20 year career as an intelligence officer who used satellites to do the work:

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Mr. Tice was also a life-long Republican who quit that party because of its spying on Americans, only to find out that the tyranny infection is endemic to the point that Obama (Obama Administration Rides Into The W Sunset) has also become a tyrant:

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Mr. Tice, who blew the whistle loud, was ignored or not believed by the news media at large.

But he now points out that since the latest NSA whistleblower, Mr. Snowden, has the proof of what Mr. Tice was saying, Mr. Tice's revelations will now be taken more seriously.

His statement in the video, "J. Edgar Hoover on steroids", is interesting because a recent Dredd Blog post discusses the Hoover FBI legacy (The Queens of Stalingrad - 2, see also Hoover & The Farm).

Do we want "Hoover on steroids?":

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One wonders whether or not Mr. Tice, Mr. Snowden, and/or other NSA whistleblowers will be witnesses in the ongoing ACLU vs. Clapper et al. lawsuit.

But the big takeaway question from these revelations, the question that Mr. Tice is also asking, is: "who is controlling the federal government" (see the series: Epigovernment: The New Model - 3, Epigovernment: The New Model -2, and Epigovernment: The New Model).

The mantra for such investigations used to be "follow the money", but (since that requires looking into offshore banking systems) for we amateurs there is an easier mantra: "follow the immunity."

Ask "who has committed these crimes against the American people and their Constitution?"

Then list their names, and then finally ask: "have they been held accountable?"

If not, follow their dealings and their associates through the shadows, because since they are immune from prosecution for their crimes they have committed with impunity, they are in with those who have pulled off the coup (A Tale of Coup Cities - 4).

The next post in this series is here, the previous post in this series is here.