tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post7997575594733979981..comments2024-03-16T08:04:53.086-05:00Comments on Dredd Blog: Is A New Age Of Pressure Upon Us?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-54334618484868233972010-05-28T05:18:33.043-05:002010-05-28T05:18:33.043-05:00disaffected,
Yes, the species we belong to wishes...disaffected,<br /><br />Yes, the species we belong to wishes to impose contraception or impotency upon the Earth (exempting our species of course) in the sense we take out other species and cycles, but we do not easily entertain the same upon ourselves.<br /><br />And yes again, this will not stand.<br /><br />As the ground beneath our feet adjusts to the increase in ocean level induced pressures (up to 30 ft increase eventually) there will be a decrease in population.Dreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673418865926403671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-7852706446454696802010-05-27T18:44:59.078-05:002010-05-27T18:44:59.078-05:00Prevention is the only savior; in this context tha...<i>Prevention is the only savior; in this context that means serious and systematic contraception, if civilization is to survive.</i><br /><br />Dredd, surely you jest. The Catholic church - one of the most popular religions in many third world regions - alone will ensure that contraception at the levels needed never happens. Even the Protestant yahoos are fairly resistant to such, especially if it were ever to be officially suggested/mandated. <br /><br />Current US viewpoints toward China, where such population controls have long been in place, are illustrative. Hell, these days especially, even hint to US citizens that <i>anything</i> will be mandated (especially, it seems, taxes or social programs for the poor) and you've got a new Tea Party popping up in no time. Our polity is rapidly disintegating, but I digress...NowhereManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12745173041874539711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-30975201481845349972010-05-27T12:08:24.131-05:002010-05-27T12:08:24.131-05:00disaffected,
"Get rid of 3-5 billion of thos...disaffected,<br /><br />"<i>Get rid of 3-5 billion of those mouths</i>"<br /><br />Prevention is the only savior; in this context that means <i>serious and systematic contraception</i>, if civilization is to survive.<br /><br />The alternative to which you refer, the demise of our fellow human beings, including most likely our own selves, is the haphazard way which will likely mean the demise of civilization.<br /><br />In that event, I hope the better humans survive, however, since it will be helter skelter random, that is not guaranteed.<br /><br />Thus, the next civilization may be a devolved clone of the current dysfunctional civilization.<br /><br />In that case the human species itself eventually becomes endangered and likely to become extinct.Dreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673418865926403671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-31780516072872086212010-05-27T09:35:13.478-05:002010-05-27T09:35:13.478-05:00John Michael Greer had a post related to this topi...John Michael Greer had <a href="http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2010/05/principle-of-subsidiary-function.html" rel="nofollow">a post</a> related to this topic on complexity over on his blog a few weeks ago. He rightly points out that it's not just all the stupid, short-sighted, for love of money things we do that get us into trouble, but the fact that we have systems built on layers and layers and layers of complexity now that are almost incomprehensible to all but the most dedicated of experts, and sometimes not even to them. Further, in such a system, the only answers remaining when the inevitable new problems crop up are to...ADD MORE COMPLEXITY! The post was tailor made for the Deepwater Horizon incident, although the same argument could be leveled at any number of current ongoing problems, such as the current financial debt mess, the inability/unwillingness of societies to convert from a cheap-oil based economies, and the coming food and fresh water wars, etc.<br /><br />Of course that same complexity is the only thing allowing us to sustain 6 billion human mouths everyday, so there you go. Get rid of 3-5 billion of those mouths - which WILL happen one way or another - and life may become relatively simple and sustainable once again. Of course we'll still have to deal with the lingering after effects of trying to sustain so many for so long, so maybe the whole thing will just flame out instead. Mother earth and the remaining species - if we don't kill them all first - will be relieved to see us gone.NowhereManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12745173041874539711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-9783552786662923332010-05-27T08:33:03.036-05:002010-05-27T08:33:03.036-05:00Pressures at the poles under the ice will decrease...Pressures at the poles under the ice will decrease as the ice melts, then when the water which results from the melt makes it to the oceans, pressures on the sea floor will increase.<br /><br />Surely this will torque the crust some as the scientists say, and it seems sensible that engineers should take the changing pressures into consideration, because the pressure on the gas and oil will change some.Randyhttp://artwanted.com/artist.cfm?artid=3388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-72610697416751535682010-05-27T07:33:54.497-05:002010-05-27T07:33:54.497-05:00The pressures come from an unsustainable imperial ...The pressures come from an unsustainable imperial consumer society based on first world militarism, all based on a cheap energy economy based on fossil fuels, which are now entering the twilight of their existence. From here on out, the ride will only get bumpier and the descent steeper. The triggers will be many, but they only represent symptoms. The underlying disease is imperial overreach and environmental overshoot based on massive resource depletion. We're just the latest, perhaps most spectacular example of a culture that wanted it all but came up seriously short. The irony of it all is that there ARE people alive right now who are smart enough and powerful enough to have influenced us to take a different path, but for whatever reason, chose personal enrichment instead. Ahh well, same as it ever was. Watching the news these days one gets the overpowering sense that all of this is going to end VERY messily and VERY badly, and, quite possibly, VERY SOON as well.NowhereManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12745173041874539711noreply@blogger.com