tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post5402919880493102460..comments2024-03-16T08:04:53.086-05:00Comments on Dredd Blog: Sickology vs. PenologyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-37695458438683019802011-03-24T09:33:02.713-05:002011-03-24T09:33:02.713-05:00Washington's Blog has a good post on point:
T...Washington's Blog has a good post on point:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/03/failure-to-stand-up-to-evil-leads-to.html" rel="nofollow">The Failure To Stand Up To Evil Leads To Insanity ...</a>Dreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673418865926403671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-68010688220166061672011-03-22T14:35:49.651-05:002011-03-22T14:35:49.651-05:00Anonymous,
I love Paris Hilton ever since she sai...Anonymous,<br /><br /><i>I love Paris Hilton ever since she said "see you at the election bitches"</i> ...<br /><br />Yep, we think she must crack up when she reads our MOMCOM thingy ... we do love her too and have said:<br /><br />"<i>The visible persona of MOMCOM has been depicted by Dredd Blog as a beautiful, intelligent, witty, and entirely competent creature</i>"<br /><br />(<a href="http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2010/11/jabber-whut.html" rel="nofollow">Jabber The Whut?</a>)Dreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673418865926403671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-63388924687254448482011-03-22T10:52:15.073-05:002011-03-22T10:52:15.073-05:00Lily Tomlinson quote:
"We are all in this al...Lily Tomlinson quote:<br /><br />"We are all in this alone."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Lily_Tomlin" rel="nofollow">Quotes</a>Dreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673418865926403671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-35267160740632074102011-03-21T18:26:36.321-05:002011-03-21T18:26:36.321-05:00For the record, there is no such thing as "ch...For the record, there is no such thing as "cheap oil".<br /><br /> Oil costs civilization its life.<br /><br /> How cheap is that?<br /><br /> Oil exacts the ultimate price, your life.<br /><br /> Get that strait <i>disaffected</i> or your name is a lie, because you most definitely are <i>affected</i> whether you want to be or not.<br /><br /> Talk about denial, dude.<br /><br /> Stop being goddamn fools my dear friend bloggers, please!Dreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673418865926403671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-88045843057306993502011-03-21T17:36:44.439-05:002011-03-21T17:36:44.439-05:00disaffected,
Point taken.
We will be "gree...disaffected,<br /><br />Point taken. <br /><br />We will be "green".<br /><br />It is just a matter of how many of the "not green" will kill those of the "green", but ultimately only those of the green will remain.<br /><br />Probably the theme song will be Coldplay's Viva La Vida, especially the lyric "that was when I ruled the world" ...<br /><br />dig it, the whore MOMCOM is going down dude ... <br /><br />and BTW for MOMCOM see you at the cosmic elections bitch !!!!Randyhttp://www.peakoil.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-47362583599377887412011-03-21T15:46:34.934-05:002011-03-21T15:46:34.934-05:00I love Paris Hilton ever since she said "see ...I love Paris Hilton ever since she said "see you at the election bitches" ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-37694565102693128192011-03-21T12:30:06.616-05:002011-03-21T12:30:06.616-05:00Sanity is not an alternative energy, insanity is t...Sanity is not an alternative energy, insanity is the alternative energy that must be rejected.Dreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673418865926403671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-7176950304061721272011-03-21T12:10:56.600-05:002011-03-21T12:10:56.600-05:00Randy,
Once again, you hear what you want to hear...Randy,<br /><br />Once again, you hear what you want to hear. All I'm saying is that any sustainable society that exists post oil will be NOTHING like the one that now exists. I don't what the population will be, but it certainly won't be anywhere near the current 6.8B or so that now exist. And that IS gonna be a bitter pill for people to swallow. <br /><br />It's far better to acknowledge that right up front, than it is to string the next generation along under the guise that if they just "go green" then everything will be just the same as it's "always" been (but in fact has "only been" for the past 100 years or so). <br /><br />The end of cheap oil will in fact be a stark turning point if you believe in society as it's currently constructed, which will be made all the worse by the fact that we in the US have NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER of giving it up. <br /><br />The current "green technology" ruse, while it may in fact be our only choice going forward, certainly - barring some kind of miraculous technological breakthrough which is not yet on the horizon - is not going to maintain our current lifestyle anytime soon. To lead people to believe otherwise is to maintain the current fantasy that has gotten us where we are today.NowhereManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12745173041874539711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-62239449180592899962011-03-21T11:55:46.623-05:002011-03-21T11:55:46.623-05:00disaffected,
Going with the "experts"?
...disaffected,<br /><br />Going with the "experts"?<br /><br />Not at all.<br /><br />You are going with the jackoff X spirts ... the sexless mouth organs of MOMCOM lizards who propagate by propaganda.<br /><br />It seems disingenuous to incessantly bloviate about the death of society because of oil and at the same time invoke the holy grail of MOMCOM ... "there is no alternative" to oil.<br /><br />Horse shit!!!!<br /><br />That has been their mantra forever.<br /><br />And the real source for which there is no alternative has always been there.<br /><br />Wonderful societies existed long before oil was discovered, the drug which made only one thing possible, the destruction of civilization, not its continued existence.<br /><br />Now you harp their mantra because you seem to want society to die. You really do.<br /><br />That is the effect of the drug MOMCOM the suicidal maniac, wants in every mind.<br /><br />Shake it baby, if you know what I mean.<br /><br />There is a concept of civilization without oil, it is called "a sane civilization".<br /><br />We need to get back Jo Jo, get back to where we once belonged.Randyhttp://www.peakoil.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-13152311688761854332011-03-21T10:56:39.029-05:002011-03-21T10:56:39.029-05:00Well, I'm simply going with the experts in the...Well, I'm simply going with the experts in the field (the physics guys), almost all of whom say that there is nothing even remotely close to oil in terms of the amount of useful energy it provides from such a compact source. Which really shouldn't be surprising to anyone. If there were, we surely would have at least discovered it by now.<br /><br />That's not to say that there are no alternatives out there whatsoever, but it IS to say that no combination of those alternatives whatsoever - NONE - that we can even currently imagine, will deliver the same lifestyle that we now have with oil, especially anytime soon. <br /><br />And that's a problem, because our dependence on and faith in oil to deliver the goods has led us to build an unsustainable society by any measure. We're over populating, over polluting, and generally over consuming <i>everything</i> in our wake, an attitude which we've so embraced that we've even made it our new official "religion," PERPETUAL GROWTH CAPITALISM.<br /><br />Yes, we will eventually have to embrace alternative energy sources - in that, there will be simply NO CHOICE WHATSOEVER - but, it would be wise to acknowledge that the longer we wait, the harder that transition will be, as we will need the power of remaining oil stocks to facilitate the transition to alternatives. <br /><br />BUT, either way, current levels of consumption in first world countries will not be sustainable for the long term, never mind transitioning current third world countries to the same standard of living. Nor should any sane society even want them to be. <br /><br />But there's the rub. And you've said many times here before, this society has passed peak sanity MANY, MANY, MANY years back, and our slide into the abyss is now a foregone conclusion. Managing the slide is the best that can be hoped for now, but unfortunately, we're showing no signs whatsoever of even being that intelligent.NowhereManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12745173041874539711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-1439916761498642922011-03-21T10:20:09.816-05:002011-03-21T10:20:09.816-05:00disaffected,
"if there were a viable alterna...disaffected,<br /><br />"<i>if there were a viable alternative(s) on the horizon (which there isn't, nothing even remotely close)</i>"<br /><br />I can't agree with you there. <br /><br />That is the feeling any addict has and it is as real as withdrawal or the dread of withdrawal, but it is also an illusion as much as the fear that real pain and discomfort will never go away once withdrawal sets in is an illusion.<br /><br />We can do it with a plethora of real energy sources as soon as we drop the "alternative" energy, which is oil.<br /><br />I say there is an alternative energy source, and that <b>it is oil</b>, but there is also a one and only lasting source in the sense that it allows civilization to last along with it.<br /><br />It is not oil.<br /><br />The real energy is wonderfully multifaceted and waiting for our minds to grasp and use it abundantly.Dreddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673418865926403671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-31598341360970295262011-03-21T09:48:06.010-05:002011-03-21T09:48:06.010-05:00Happy spring to you too, and happy trails of ink ....Happy spring to you too, and happy trails of ink ...Randyhttp://www.peakoil.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1039161489041752842.post-69010029905938265312011-03-21T09:46:14.985-05:002011-03-21T09:46:14.985-05:00Yes indeed, oil - the concentrated energy of milli...Yes indeed, oil - the concentrated energy of millions of years of sunlight - is indeed the most intoxicating of drugs. It has allowed the construction of a technological society and levels of population that are simply unprecedented in the history of the world. A wiser race would have heeded the warnings and planned for the window of oil-based opportunity to gradually shut, but the allure of the drug has, and continues to be, too intoxicating to resist. Certainly over the course of the next 100 years or so we're going to experience the painful effects of mass withdrawal, and it's not going to be pretty sight. <br /><br />Even if there were a viable alternative(s) on the horizon (which there isn't, nothing even remotely close), the transition would be long and at least somewhat painful (especially to those who are currently profiting so much from the addiction itself), as there would need to be huge investments in infrastructure that private industry won't make and government cannot afford, all in a global crony-capitalist financial environment where investment payoffs are judged quarterly by the investment class, who will take their money and run to the higher returns of the casino economy in a heartbeat.<br /><br />There will be no good outcomes from our oil addiction. The window of opportunity has already shut in my opinion. We've made our choices and now we're in for the roller coaster ride of the century on the way down. If anyone remains to write history 100 years from now, it should be a fascinating read.NowhereManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12745173041874539711noreply@blogger.com